tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8022031833822624446.post1738796719897684153..comments2023-10-21T04:08:52.693-07:00Comments on MY GAL: EXARP skryingSoror Gimelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01895588521129363780noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8022031833822624446.post-46420014186033563712008-12-18T07:01:00.000-08:002008-12-18T07:01:00.000-08:00Actually I asked HCOMA last night about that and g...Actually I asked HCOMA last night about that and got "You have to ask for yourself" and a long disertation on how none of us pronounce any of their names right because we "do not have the tongues for it." They explained that the enochian and the translations are just codes that we have agreed on.Soror Gimelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895588521129363780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8022031833822624446.post-3813632308844792372008-12-16T21:55:00.000-08:002008-12-16T21:55:00.000-08:00Wow, the description of it as a 'bureaucrat' is a ...Wow, the description of it as a 'bureaucrat' is a major resonator here. I always describe the Agents as the central elements of an unfathomably complex, Byzantine bureaucracy. And you're spot-on about their having individual roles, that's the bailiwick thing. It was called 'bailiwick', I think, to distinguish from the jobs people have, in which they're given currency in trade for sacrificing time, and energy, at tasks which the vast majority would rather be doing anything other than. For an Agent, the bailiwick chooses it, it is its entire reason to exist and doing it is like breathing air. They can't not do it, there's no concept of not doing it, unless another Agent comes along and starts doing it better, and I get the impression this happens too rarely for us to ever likely witness in a lifetime, and also, the process of takeover is so slow it barely registers...<BR/><BR/>I do know what I'm perceiving here is largely a product of my own set of mental processes and memory. When an agent (or angel, demon, whatever you'd call it) manifests and I have communion with it, it can only communicate with me using the material it has available to work with. <BR/><BR/>(BTW: I am really interested in the ones who make mountains...I am acquainted with a geological entity of fire and earth, Vrekakequai, sort of a Hephaestus/Vulcan analogue, though much more contentious. I know of it, but don't know it personally, since to it, human beings are scarcely worthy of notice and it seems to have contempt for the species for infringing on its own bailiwick - something to do with nuclear bombs being past a line that is the territory of the ones who churn magma, they who are distantly related to the ones who build stars. His sister, Vshilshavulishevali, of water and air, the bringer of storms...she's got her own issues, being the one who lets the atmosphere be churned and freed of entropy, the air that is not just layered on top of Gaia but is her skin. <BR/><BR/>They are both DE predominant, and enjoy boasting to one another of their prowess at causing natural disasters. A Voudoun practitioner I know likened 'Vshilly' to the <I>lwa</I> Erzulie.<BR/><BR/>There are similarities between systems but I can usually recognise where the boundaries are fixed, and where they are more flux-prone. <BR/><BR/>So, did I get that pronunciation right? I'm really curious about that...Demimonde Mesila Thraamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02862186408291635873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8022031833822624446.post-84874202833279161392008-12-16T21:16:00.000-08:002008-12-16T21:16:00.000-08:00Welcome and thanks for posting. I am never sure if...Welcome and thanks for posting. I am never sure if anyone is reading this :) Certainly there is no need to hold my views of Thelema, I just put it out there so that people know where I am coming from. That is a jumping off place at best. <BR/><BR/>I am not sure of the LEXARP EXARP connection. EXARP is the Spirit of Air from the Tablet of Union. You might want to ask the next time you talk to either of them. How things are connected is always an interesting dance of the warp and weft. (Sorry old weaving reference)<BR/><BR/>Though I would caution against too much synergy between systems. Each buerocratic spirit (that is how they register to me anyway) has their place in creation and or destruction. While they are all part of the process they do not all manifest in the same way. The spirits that create mountains are not EXACTLY the same guardians of the abyss. That is not their job and they are working out of class... there are union rules you know :)Soror Gimelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895588521129363780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8022031833822624446.post-85540992864644394072008-12-16T20:38:00.000-08:002008-12-16T20:38:00.000-08:00Interesting, and wonderfully described, encounter ...Interesting, and wonderfully described, encounter with the xenodimensionals...Glad I happened to find this.<BR/><BR/>I'm wondering if EXARP and LEXARP have anything to do with one another...since the names are so similar. What place does EXARP have on the grid, or the aethyrs? I am not a practicing Thelemite just sort of an impudent heretic, with specific, idiosyncratic personal interest in the dwellers of the Abyss.<BR/><BR/>I have known this agent LEXARP along with COMANAN and TABITOM, being the governors of ZAX along with Choronzon--the focus of my personal heresy being a depthful yet tongue-in-cheeky connexion with that one for the past 23 years.<BR/><BR/>I find it curious that you experienced a manifestation of EXARP as physics symbols - it's just the sort of left-brainy, logicky stuff I keep seeing associated with the LEXARP figure.<BR/><BR/>All beings and things whether of this world or of the xenodimensions have some percentage of CON and of DE in their mske-up. This agent - all xenodimensionals being 'agents' of one sort or another - has his/its overall ratio of CON and DE leaning more to CON and away from DE. <BR/><BR/>DE isn't 'evil' and CON 'good', they're major essences of dissolution and control, chaos and order, apartness and togetherness - which, in eternal opposition, create the primordial Schism of Friction, fuelling the engines that spin the wheels of event and circumstance.<BR/><BR/>LEXARP is sort of a defector from its CON-orientation, as portrayed in an allegorical mythopoeic setting involving Choronzon, which I've been putting together for years. One segment of it focuses on how LEXARP became a governor of the chaotic qippothic recycling plant of ZAX, even though LEXARP's own bailiwick would seem unfit to be in such a position. <BR/><BR/>I have seen LEXARP as the foil/antithesis to Choronzon's high concentration of DE. LEXARP brought it cogency, and the ability to communicate coherently as well as cope with silence, which he was once unable to do. in exchange for a favour. <BR/><BR/>When Choronzon discovered how to Love and was redeemed, he/it was catapulted out of ZAX to walk between this world and the xenodimensions, living partially in both realities at once...leaving LEXARP in charge of the whole <I>schmeer</I> down/out/up/in the Abyss, who was only too happy to become promoted for the first time in centuries. (As one who's less of a prankster than C., LEXARP has a demeanour better suited to the task of guarding the works and escorting visitors who desire knowledge - and yet do not desire too much power - through the zone divesting them of their ego-awareness. (C. did that for me, because I liked him. It made a huge difference.)<BR/><BR/>All this should be taken with economy sized grains of salt and/or a laugh, of course. There's precious little myth-making any more, and Choronzon wished I do it, echoing my own wishes...so I did. And do. I don't pretend to know whole lot about Enochian in general, however. <BR/><BR/>Only in the past year or so have I been looking more closely into understanding it beyond its relevance to my mythopoeia. Not long ago, I was finally learning how to pronounce Enochian words correctly--finding that the phonics are quite dissimilar to English. <BR/><BR/>The way one would say ZAX is <I>zoe-datz</I>. EXARP would be something like <I>ay-datz-ahr-pay</I> if I recall correctly. Maybe you can either confirm or refute this.<BR/><BR/>Apologies for being so prolix. And thanks for sharing the skrying report, which I ran into completely serendipitously.<BR/><BR/>- Mesila333Demimonde Mesila Thraamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02862186408291635873noreply@blogger.com